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EXCELLENT post.

Thank you FMF.

Financial Rounds had an interesting post not too long ago about insurance companies starting to target the "religious market" -- they apparently have crunched the numbers and decided that religious people are good risks.

Anyhow, he notes that one of the most popular features of their policies is their promise to continue your tithe for you if you are disabled in an accident.

[Huh. Apparently I can't post an html link in your comments -- the post is at http://financialrounds.blogspot.com/2006/01/insurers-find-religion-from-wsj.html ]

I cant tithe and at the same time save for retirement and an "emergency fund". Should I tithe before I put money into my savings?

First of all tithing was an ordinance created by God for the 11 tribes of Israel to take care of the Levite Tribe. The Levite Tribe had the responsibility to do service in the temple and they could not have any kind of a business. This is why the other 11 tribes had to support the Levites. At that time in the Old Testament, there was a storehouse. The 11 tribes gave 10% of everything they had. Today, the church is not that storehouse. There is no carry over of this ordinance because the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ has done away with the temple worship and the New Testament points the believer towards the idea of giving offerings which are to be done by a free will. Ordinances were under the law and the age of grace does away with ordinances. The tithe was given to the Nation of Israel and not to the church(the Body of Christ). Very few believers teach this concept because many of the leaders do not rightly divide the word of God for the people. Many leaders find it very economically sound to push the tithe on the people for the love of you know what(money). Go to the the book and everything I have said is there. Be truthful to the people and the Lord will be pleased.

So, are you saying that people should only give as they feel led? What standard is that? Should New Testament Christians give more or less than the tithe? What about Jesus' thoughts in Mt. 23:23? Lots of unanswered questions here.

As I've said in other posts/comments, if someone says that tithing is not for New Testament believers but advocates that Christians should use the tithe (10%) as their starting point for giving, I'm ok with that as well. The reasoning is that the tithe (in effect) does still end up being paid.

What I'm not ok with is Christians who use the "freedom" of the New testament to give LESS than 10%. They are simply beeing stingy and robbing God. The New Testament calls us to a HIGHER calling (see Mt. 5:21-22, 27-28, 31-48) than the Old. As such, tithing should be a starting place for Christians.

We must tithe no less than the 10% then we have to give offerings from the 90%. Tithe is a covenant sign an belongs to God. Offerings is for abundance (generosity)what we sow we'll reap

i agree with tsunami:
"Christians should use the tithe (10%) as their starting point for giving"
i allot more than 10% of my income to giving for God's/kingdom work...so it's not really a tithe anymore. note that I did not specify church. while my home church does get the bulk of my offerings, I belive that giving support to missionaries, campus ministries, etc. is a way of tithing too.

I think it worth noting that in Malachi 3:8 it points out that not paying tithing or offerings is akin to robbing God. And one of the 10 Commandments is "Thou shalt not steal." God is our financial partner in life and all He has asked of us is 10% of what He helped us earn. And when you treat God fairly and give Him His 10%, He blesses us further. You will never find a business partner that will offer you such a great deal!

One person here asked if they should pay their tithing instead of saving for retirement and putting money into an emergency fund. I would say "No!" Pay your tithing AND put money in retirement and your emergency fund. Only 90% of your income is yours to keep. 10% is God's. Don't spend God's money - spend yours. Pay your tithing, pay yourself and then pay your bills and expenses and watch how God will bless you for your faithfulness. Just remember that tithing isn't paid with money ... it's paid with faith.

One thing that I love about my church is that each year we meet with our Bishop for tithing settlement where we get to declare whether or not we are a "full-tithe payer." In Matthew 5:48, Jesus tells us to be perfect, even as our Father in heaven is perfect. I am inperfect in a lot of ways. But each year I have the opportunity to say that I am perfect in one way - I am a full-tithe payer.

Lastly, don't forget the offerings. Sometimes we serve as God's angels to others and the paying of offerings to help the needy is one way that happens. Give what you can give when you can give it. Sometimes it is money. Sometimes it is labor. Sometimes it is simply love and understanding.

Im curious, how do you guys feel about tithing to a non-Christian organization which does the work of the Lord by helping others. I gave half of my yearly tithe to my church back home (currently deployed military) which will be used in a Sudan relief effort via UMCOR. I would like to give the other half to International Medical Corps, which is a non-Christian aid organization which provides emergency health care around the world. I am satisfied that they will use the money as efficiently as possible and they have some endorsments to back that up. I cant say that about a lot of churches I have attended. I am often afraid my money will go to purchasing a new espresso machine or a jungle gym for the kids. Any thoughts?

Joshua --

That's an EXCELLENT question -- one I've been meaning to write about (it's on my list.)

If I were you, I'd try and find a parachurch Christian organization like Samaritan's Purse, World Vision, or Compassion which does what you want (helps those in need efficiently) but also does it in the name of Christ (something I sense you're looking for as well.)

Wow, quick response! I went ahead and got on UMCOR's web site and learned that 100% of donations go to the program listed since administrative costs are obtained through a separate channel, and that they also provide medical relief similar to IMC. I went ahead and made my donation to the administrative channel because I think its great that they can make the 100% guarantee for first time givers, or people not quite sure where there money is going. For someone like myself who has a little better understanding of the organization, I have no problem funding administrative costs. Also, any spillover from this fund goes to the programs with the highest need. It feels great to give, especially since I am giving for the whole year all at once. The bigger amount makes it more fun! Thanks for the advice.

I am happy to tithe. I even am excited to tithe, it makes me feel good. But, I just have one question...I know that you give 10% of your earnings to God...first...and then He will bless the other 90% but do you think it counts if on Friday you get paid and you write your check for your tithe and don't go to church until sunday to place it in the offering bucket but in the meantime you need to pay your bills or go grocery shopping or something like that? I am confused...

Stefenie --

Yes, I think that's fine.

I have one question: If you are not apart of a local congregation or are not saved, does God still accept you tithing and should churches accept you tithing?

John --

That's actually more than one question. :-)

I'm not sure what you mean. Can you clarify your questions?

I'm curious to know if I should give a tithe from my income tax return or just an offering? It isn't earned so I wasn't sure about that.

Michelle --

Since you've already tithed on this money (the gross salary you earned, then paid taxes from it), you don't need to tithe on a tax return, IMO.

what about Deuteronomy 16:13-15?Is that included in the tithe in the book of Malachi ?And what about the tithe of Deuteronomy 14:22-27?Is this tithe included in the tithe Malachi teaches?And of course what about the Levi ? And what about Deuteronomy14:27-29?Do these tithes apply to believers in YESHUA?And are all these tithes the tithes that the prophet Malachi is teaching ? Is that why the prophet uses the plural tithes instead of tithe?Peace be to your house.

I don't understand why so many insist that we follow the OT Law of Tithing, but say it's ok to neglect most of the other Laws.

Galatians 5:4
"You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace."

How many of the Apostles taught that we need to Tithe? All of them? Most of them? Some of them? No. NONE of the Apostles taught that we need to/must/should Tithe. Not one.

The only mention of the Tithe outside the Gospels is in Hebrews 7.

The author, assumed to be Paul, writes that Abraham did not Tithe a tenth of everything. It says a tenth of the PLUNDER. And Abraham did not Tithe every week. Abraham Tithed only once in his whole life.

In the Old Covenant, Levi collects the tenth. But it also says that the Levitical Priesthood has passed, and so we need a change of the Law.

So why do we try to follow a Law that has been crucified and buried with Jesus? He died for us, we should live for Him. We should stop acting as if His sacrifice meant nothing, as if we are still under the Old Covenant.

Jesus Himself talks about the Tithe only twice, in Matthew 23:23 and Luke 18:9-14.

And both times, Jesus spoke to Pharisees who were still under Law, who were still following the Law, better than any other group in Israel. But Jesus did NOT say "well done". Both times, He said, "You hypocrite! You neglect that which is more important."

Does this mean we should stop giving? Of course not. But we should be good stewards, stop trying to live under and old Law, and give as the Bible says. When will we stop following false doctrine and turn to the Bible?

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