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I would strongly disagree with the statement that "the house you live in is a liability". It is certainly not an investment per se, but it is an asset in that it is property that provides the benefit of a place to live to its owner.

Otherwise, some well-made points about the law of unintended consequences, which is largely why individual health insurance is so difficult to obtain in the United States. Does the author have any opinion on the use of homeowner tax incentives?

Interesting post. I haven't heard this before. Is Marotta a Republican by any chance :)?

Christopher, an asset is something that puts money in your pocket. A house that you use as a primary residence does not put money in your pocket unless you sell it after it has appreciated and then "downsize." Still, it's obviously best to own your home regardless of your opinion about it being an asset. It's hard to regard your home as an "investment" when you're probably not going to ever use the proceeds of it...unless you take out a loan against the equity...*shudder*.

I will agree with you though, that it is an asset in a non-financial sense. You're right on there.

And the subprime meltdown had nothing to do with the lucrative fees that lenders (and brokers, and appraisers) received for mortgages they'd pass on to other entities who'd be left holding the bag, right?

Oh, I forgot, the 'greedy capitalists' are too smart for that.

Certain people just aren't meant to be homeowners. The subprime mess lowered the standards and let some of them "in the door". When they realized there are taxes, insurance and maintenance costs to pay on top of a monthly mortgage, many of them couldn't handle it.

Things like the subprime meltdown will only cease to happen once everyone in this country, the government included, gives up their sense of entitlement to a huge house, 4 cars etc. As long as we have Hillary Clinton promising to have loans forgiven, bail people out etc., people will never see any consequences for poor decisions? If the government pays off my huge house that I cannot afford, why shouldn't I expect them to pay the bill on my 65" plasma TV when that comes due?

We are reinforcing ignorant behavior. This will all happen again sooner, rather than later. Perhaps not the housing market, but credit cards, car loans....it will be something.

I often disagree with the Marotta guest posts that appear on this blog, but I've never seen one with such a blatent, politically-motivated message. The notion that government intervention (rather than the lack of it!) is primarily to blame for the present increased wave of foreclosures is way off-the-mark.

The guest blogger suggests that events would have unfolded less unfavorably if only the "free market" had been permitted to rule. In my view, such suggestions are simplistic and dangerous.

I guess it would be useless to teach my kids about personal responsibility if the government is just going to bail you out each time you make a bad decision...

C'mon, grow up and take responsibility for your own decisions and actions. You'll never learn if you aren't allowed to fall...

"It is our own federal regulations interfering with the free market."

Whew. I needed a good laugh this afternoon.

C'mon, FMF, I know you are smarter than this. These "guest posts" really bring down the quality of your blog.

@F. Morana...

Marotta was completely on-the-mark. Had goverment not stepped in, no person, who could not afford a house, would be permited to borrow. It's as simple as that. Marotta explains, in great detail, why government intervention caused most of the problems we are experiencing today. His explanation has gone deeper than any other I have seen. We originally were blaming borrowers, lenders, banks, anyone, when in fact we should have been asking: why? If we ask "why?" enough, we will eventually reach the cause of the problem... which is what Marotta did. His view is neither simplistic, nor dangerous.

If you continue to not agree with the explanation, then please, counter his arguements, or provide an explanation of your own.

Christopher, you're right about a house always being an asset, but the house and mortgate together can become a net liability if the market value of the house falls below the remaining principle on the loan (i.e. the borrower becomes "upside-down" in the loan). I think that's what Marotta was getting at, though he probably should have been more precise.

Sarah,

"C'mon, FMF, I know you are smarter than this." So is stupidity the only explanation you've entertained for FMF posting this? I don't even object to the condescension and smugness of your comment because I indulge in both regularly myself. What bothers me is the intellectual laziness of resorting to calling FMF stupid and the idea of the post laughable. Who is that supposed to persuade other than people who already agree with you? C’mon, Sarah, I know you can debate better than that.

Same goes for you F. Morana!

Interesting post. I must say I had never considered the motivators for banks to offer loans to riskier borrowers, other than the profit potential. Still, this paints the banks as victims a wee bit too much (which is as irritating as regarding those who can't pay their McMansion mortgage as "victims"). Nobody forced them to offer teaser rates or invent products so complicated their customers wouldn't know what they were getting into. By the same token, nobody forced a potential homebuyer to sign for a loan he or she didn't understand.

Seems to me like a lot of different parties made a lot of bad decisions. Everyone involved - borrowers, lenders, and regulatory bodies - should recongize their role in creating the problem.

The real source of the problem is short term compensation of CEOs. They could create toxic waste, sell it as gold, skim the profits, and leave investors holding the bag. The problem is never fools and scoundrels that want to borrow. They have been and always will be around. The problem is investors putting naive trust in middlemen and reaching for unjustified returns.

In general, the idea that CRA caused the subprime mortgage mess is not backed by any real data or anything showing a real cause and effect relationship. To me it seems you've got an unsubstantiated and unsupported theory and nothing more. If you want to present a theory then you should substantiate the claims with real data and then show some causality.

To look at a specific point, I'm curious about this bit:

"These community groups described the regulatory pressure forcing banks to increase their underwriting of low-income loans as a positive and encouraging trend. Bruce Marks of the Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America boasted to the New York Times that he had gotten $3.8 billion in loan commitments in the city of Boston alone."

This would seem to imply that Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America (NACA) is partially responsible for bad loans and high foreclosure rates.

But NACA makes fixed term loans at prime rates. They are not ARMs or high interest rate loans as typifying the subprime crisis. NACA even has loan programs to help bail out homeowners currently facing foreclosure.

I don't see any relationship whatsoever between NACAs loans and the subprime mortgage meltdown as you seem to be implying.

Jim

Marotta's argument blaming excessive government intervention conveniently neglects to account for the role that deregulation played in the credit crisis. The repeal of Glass-Steagall, a major piece of bank regulation, is what allowed big banks to underwrite and trade mortgage-backed securities, CDOs, SIVs, etc. in the first place. I'm sure Marotta would also argue that Enron, WorldCom, and Tyco are just symptoms of TOO MUCH regulation.

Author post (from David John Marotta)

A number of posts blamed the creation of structured investment vehicles (SIVs) of mortgages as the primary cause of the subprime meltdown instead of the CRA, but this is a false dichotomy. The CRA changes of 1995 is what allowed the securitization of CRA loans containing subprime mortgages:

Community Reinvestment Act (Changes of 1995):
The 1995 revisions were credited with helping to substantially increase the amount of loans to small businesses and to low- and moderate-income borrowers for home loans. Part of the increase in the latter type of lending was no doubt due to increased efficiency in the secondary market for mortgage loans. The revisions allowed the securitization of CRA loans containing subprime mortgages. The first public securitization of CRA loans started in 1997.

David John Marotta

Author Post (from David John Marotta):

In reply to Jim's comments about the Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America (NACA): I believe that the NACA experience provides evidence of the exact problem we are facing.

Criticism of groups like the NACA would say what the NACA themselves say, "[the NACA] offers extensive education before qualifying borrowers for a below-market-rate, 30-year fixed mortgage with no down payment or closing costs" (Boston Globe, Dec 30th 2007)

"He [Bruce Marks of the NACA] refuses to differentiate between people suffering discrimination and people who are legitimately bad credit risks." (Boston Globe, Dec 30th 2007)

You can find posts of people's experiences with the NACA. Basically, they help you collect the documentation to support a mortgage and suppress or eliminate the documentation that implies you shouldn't have a loan. They help you clean up your credit report, not your actual finances. Their "educational process" only worked while house prices were rising. I would appreciate anyone who has the current default rates for NACA counseled mortgages. They may be doing "better" than the sub prime market, but I am certain they are doing a lot worse than the traditional market (even their own traditional loans).

David John Marotta

any time you get the government sticking its nose in business you should anticipate a disaster. What should you expect when you extort banks to write loans that are not in their best interest. It's amazing that it took this long to implode.

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