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February 08, 2010

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Good article!

However for me I usually leave by 7am and come back by 6pm. With 8 hours for sleeping that leaves only a few hours a day for socializing with the wife, working out and the rest of things. Obviously working from home would be a much better gig simply because you put in less hours away from home!

-Mike

"9 to 5" sounds so quaint, doesn't it?

I would rename this "The Other 5 Hours and Weekends". :-)

That said, the points are valid. I can make lists and plans at work during some free time, but everything else happens between 6pm-11pm during the week and all day on weekends.

"However for me I usually leave by 7am and come back by 6pm. With 8 hours for sleeping that leaves only a few hours a day"

Everyone makes choices, even that one.

I chose IT as a career, assuming that I would like work for a big IT company somewhere. And I did. Then I realized that "big IT company" means "long hours" and "probably a big city" which generally translates to "long commute to reach affordable housing".

So I took a pay cut ($59k/yr to $40k/yr) to work as an IT admin for a non-profit. Then we moved to be closer to work. My commute is now 10 minutes and I'm not allowed to work overtime. In that choice I exchanged time for money, and overall I've been happy.

My next move is going to be to change careers so we can move even more rural and get a pay hike. I'm thinking small town dentistry...

Looks like an interesting read. It seems that if more of us were given a swift kick in the pants, we could find out how we could maximize those "other 8 hours' and really get back to our priorities...whatever they may be.

Good thought for a Monday morning.

Whether you have 8 hours or 3 hours, and Crystal wisely noted that even THAT is a choice, the premise of this idea is the same. I have actually read this book and it is life-changing!

Well, my viewpoint is that since I'm working at least 8 hours a day then I'd rather work as much as possible and maximize my income, save as much as I can, then be able to stop working by my choice.

So you are correct, it's a choice but one I am ok with living with.

-Mike

It is a problem when you have a very responsible job and you are trying to do the absolute best you can for your company. I was fortunate that my vacation started at 2 weeks and increased by one week every 5 years until it maxed out at 5 weeks. That helps a lot if you want to take some extended vacations to third world countries while you are still young, active, and very healthy.

The only piece of advice I can offer is to try to retire early if you can. I retired at age 58 with a company pension and had to wait until I was 62 to get Social Security. These days a lot of people don't have company pensions and the ages for SS benefits is subject to change in the future since we are all living longer. This makes it even more important to save hard and invest wisely so that you are able to retire early. There are people (like my old boss) that never wanted to retire - he used to say that his wife told him that she didn't want him at home all day, every day - that's a sad situation. Last time I heard he was in his mid seventies and still working.

8 hours? LOL!

Let's see:

The alarm clock goes off at 6am.
Get dressed, take the dog out, dress the baby, pack the lunch, then leave the house.
Drop the baby at the sitters, commute to work.
Work 8-9-10 hours (on a good day).
Commute home.
Pick up the baby, maybe stop into a store or two.
Get home, check the mail and deal with any fires.
Take dog out.
Feed said dog, and cat.
Take a shower, undress/redress the baby, begin feeding aforementioned baby.
Wife gets home.
Talk about the day a bit, she deals with her mail, goes to play with the baby.
Wife takes over feeding stubborn baby while hubby makes dinner.
Feed self and wife.
Catch up on current events of the day, chit chat while playing with baby.
Baby goes to bed.
Baby wakes up 30 minutes later crying for a night-cap bottle.
Feed baby again then put her to sleep.
Deal with daily finances - bills to schedule to pay, check CC statements, maybe even try to do some investment research.
Hopefully catch a few minutes of House or Fringe with wife to spend some quality time.
Turn off lights and stagger into bed.
Be lucky to get 6 hours of sleep.

If you can find 8 hours of "free" time in there please let MasterPo know.

MasterPo --

I found several things interesting in your post. The highlights:

1. Another reason not to have a dog...

2. One of you could stop working while the other grows his/her career.

3. "few minutes of House or Fringe with wife to spend some quality time." That's "quality time"? Ha!

FMF, I haven't heard of this book before, so I'm glad you shared it here. I wholeheartedly agree with the major point the author is making: EVERYTHING is a choice! Someone said this is life's greatest truth and hardest lesson.

@Sarah
Bobbert posted the good point about choice...I completely agree as well. Good point Bobbert.

@FMF
1. The dog only takes 10 minutes of his morning and 10 minutes of his evening...it's the baby that took so long (and costs more than the dog too). I'm not advocating getting rid of the baby, but let's give credit where it's due.
2. That is an option.
3. Don't diss House as quality time...LOL :-P I laugh because my hubby and I watch House and Big Bang Theory every Monday...we make comments and laugh together so we consider it quality time. We also talk about our day and the one coming every night before falling to sleep...it's just a different type of quality time.

@MasterPo
I think the point of the article was that what you do away from your job defines you...in your case, I see the definition of a dad and husband. You do have the other hours away from work...you just spend them working with a baby, cooking, saying hi to your wife, etc. Those are your "Other 8 Hours"...they just are really busy.

FMF - MasterPo's mother taught him "If you have nothing nice to say about someone then it is best to say nothing."

MasterPo will follow mother's advise now.


Crystal - Thanks.

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