I thought I'd give you all an update on my on-going war with Sears over the sub-par elliptical machine they sold me and then won't take back.
My last post on this subject was Sears Elliptical Update: They Don't Stand Behind Their Products and Their Customer Service Stinks where I tried (as a reader's suggestion) to get Sears to take back my dud elliptical machine. No going.
The new news is that the repairman did come by yesterday (around 1:30 pm -- so my wife had to wait all morning and part of the afternoon for him) and install the parts they had sent to our house. I used the machine last night for an hour and here's my take on it now:
- The operation is much smoother -- the knocking sound in the front is gone. That's an improvement.
- I put in new batteries before I worked out, and by the time I was done working out, the console was blinking in and out (a sign the batteries were wearing out). On this trip, the repairman told my wife that everything the machine does will drain the console batteries (like display the workout status and adjust the resistance). Last time, he said that batteries being drained too quickly was a sign of a bad console (and that's why we got a new one).
- The machine now squeaks in the front (I haven't determined the exact location yet) and there seems to be way too much "sway" in the front stem as the machine is used. Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if the thing just snapped off one night and sent me flying across the room. Believe me, if that happens, I'll be seeking the advice of a lawyer.
In the end, I don't think this machine is long for this world. We'll have to see. But I've been thinking of the whole situation and I'm still miffed at it -- especially at the treatment I received from Sears customer service. I mean this is a bad piece of equipment, they are losing a fortune on servicing it, I'm frustrated, and they certainly aren't getting good press out of this. If they really wanted to earn a loyal customer, they would have taken it back and called it a day. But noooooooooooooooooo...
But I'm not giving up. In fact, I'm more determined than ever. My mission, as stated in my last post is as follows:
Ok, now I'm on a mission. A mission to persuade whoever may be reading this (approximately 1,800 people a day -- so hopefully I'll influence more than a handful of readers) to NOT buy ANYTHING of value at Sears. In the past, Sears has been our preferred retail location for items like stoves, refrigerators, dishwashers, washing machines, dryers and the like -- and all of those have been good purchases for us. Their Kenmore brand is solid and they usually have decent prices (especially if you wait for the right time to buy). But my most recent experience with buying an elliptical machine from them -- and the ensuing product and customer service failures associated with this piece of exercise equipment -- has soured me so much on the company that they'll be lucky if I ever step foot in one again. And I'm expanding that philosophy to Kmart too (which is owned by Sears). I simply do not want to give that company another dollar.
Here's what I plan on doing in my on-going war against Sears:
- I will regularly post updates on my machine, how it's working/not working, and any service/contact we have from Sears on it.
- Once a week, I'll be highlighting a "Sears customer nightmare story" -- and believe me, I have plenty of them. People from all over have left their bad Sears experiences in comments to my posts. In fact, let me share one now -- from a reader commenting on my last post:
Sears won't see any more of my money. I've been attempting for two months now to receive a refund on a part I returned. Highlights:
- Ordered $50 part
- Realized the next day I didn't need part
- Called to cancel part
- Sears: our system doesn't handle cancellations (what?!). Send it back to us when you receive it.
- I received and returned the part a few days later
- I've held 6+ conversations with their 800 call centers--no resolution
My advice: don't shop at Sears. If anything goes wrong, they will drown you in bureaucracy betting that they'll outlast you.
I think this "drown you in bureaucracy betting that they'll outlast you" is right on. They aren't going to outlast me. We'll have to see where the battle ends, but even if I end up eating the cost of the elliptical, I'll make them pay much, much more in lost sales and customer ill-will.
- I'm going to send a letter and copies of my blog entries to the president of Sears. I've tried customer service (and failed). And while readers have suggested I contact their media relations department (after all, this blog is a form of media), I think I'll cut to the chase and go to the top. Then we'll see how Sears really handles customer service.
- I have a few other tricks up my sleeve to put the heat on Sears that I'm saving for the holiday season and then into the January exercise equipment season. I should be able to thwart more than my fairshare of Sears business during that time. ;-)
As for you, if you'd like to add your own Sears horror story, please do so in the comments below.
Update: Click here to read the next chapter in my Sears saga.
Sears buyers beware! I am having the same hell of a time with a $800 Lemon Nortictrack treadmill my wife bought at Sears. Basically, you buy it, they deliver it and set it up, it works for an hour, breaks and they disappear until you give up trying to get your money back. Service warrenty is the biggest joke EVER.
My remedy is the path of least resistance. Join a gym, meet new people, never buy anything from Sears again.
Posted by: bsaryder | August 30, 2006 at 04:28 PM
Ok, I don't buy anything at Sears... They turned me down for a credit card 25 years ago when I was in college. (no bad credit, either!) Yes, I have a long memory.
However... Our water heater failed in our relatively newly acquired townhouse. Took a look at it, it was a Sears with about 1 month left on a 10 year warranty. They were out that day and replaced it for free.
Also... careful about what you put in writing. I would not be surprised if they have corporate counsel sitting around with nothing better to do that harass you for libel/slander.
Good luck with the elliptical, though.
Cheers
DW
Posted by: DW | August 31, 2006 at 01:12 AM
DW --
I'm not a lawyer, but I believe libel/slander is a false misrepresentation of the facts. I'm telling the truth, have it documented, and it can be validated by Sear's our maintenance and customer service records.
Posted by: FMF | August 31, 2006 at 07:34 AM
One of the things that everyone has to remember is that the company needs to know why you are not purchasing anything from them. If you just don't buy from them, then they chalk it up to a "seasonal" slump or something of the like. I encourage people to go into Sears as often as possible, look at their products, then when a sales person approaches them, tell them that you will not buy anything from them because of their lack of good customer service and warranty repair. That is what I plan to do. I will be in the market for a stove here soon, but I won't get it there. And I plan on telling them why. Maybe, if they get enough of these types of comments, then they will look at improving their processes. Just my two cents.
Posted by: rdub | August 31, 2006 at 09:28 AM
price is what you pay, value is what you get
Posted by: a | August 31, 2006 at 10:52 AM
OK,
I don't know what you people are up to, but not doing the right thing here!
Great to use this as a sounding board, but use it wisely!
I STILL have the 800 Eliptical from sear, the first one I had broke within 6-months, I spoke with the sales agent at FIRST. I had no results, I then called the toll free # for spare parts and service. This is where things get informative. She advised me to contact the store manager and advise them that I was having problems, and that I've already contacted the spare parts and service company and they are aware of the problem. With that, I was invited up to the Sears to get my new 800 elliptical with full warranty. I've had no issues since.
SO...don't stop where you have, wise up and keep pushing, ask questions and move on!
Posted by: Steveo | December 31, 2006 at 12:28 PM
Hello, I am sorry to hear about all the trouble you are having with your elliptical machine. I also purchased that same machine from Sears about a year ago. I noticed also that the batteries wear out very quickly, and while I am on the machine the blue screen would go blank quite often. I also have a knocking sound while I am on it. But I just found out something interesting about this machine, it can be plugged in. You need to purchase a 6 volt power supplier. The website we purchased it from is [email protected], there phone number is 1-800-999-3756, the price of the part is $44.05, the shipping and handling is a little high $15.69. We just ordered it and are waiting for its arrival. But it sounds like you are having more problems than just the console going out. I don't know why the user's manual does not say a thing about plugging in this machine instead of using the batteries. I was thinking about purchasing a more expensive elliptical machine that can be plugged in because it is so aggravating when you are on the machine and the console goes out.
Posted by: Barbara | January 04, 2007 at 08:59 PM
Thanks for the tip, but the last time we had a repairman, he showed us how to hook up our power source (one we already had) to the machine so it ran via electricity.
Like you, I can't believe they don't put that in the owner's manual.
Posted by: FMF | January 05, 2007 at 08:17 AM
If you are looking for a quality piece of exercise equipment you must seek out a local specialty fitness retailer. The price tags will be substantially higher than those at Sears however, the product quality and service will be much much better. Proform is a brand name owned my Icon fitness,which ownes a number of substandard equipment brands. These brands pride themselves in quantity rather than quality. Next time you decide to "get in shape" do some research.
Posted by: Steve | January 18, 2007 at 05:27 PM
Many years ago I made the mistake of paying cash for a storm door to be installed by Sears. I left work more than once and waited for the installer who never showed up. Finally after six weeks of waiting I went to the store with my baby in his stroller and started picketing the store. Until the manager came and made me leave I was getting handshakes from everyone who saw me. Amazingly, by the time I got back home someone was there installing my storm door! (On backwards but functional.)
Posted by: Barbara Freeman | March 29, 2007 at 03:06 PM
I used to work at sears, and from my experience working there, all we really care about is customer service. So if you feel like youre not getting the best customer service then get in touch with a manager, and if nothing works out for you state, that they are loosing a "customer for life". Sears main objective is to win customers for life, meaning customers who will continually buy from them, and they will do anything to meet that need. But nonetheless from my experience, their customer service is good, we bought a refridgerator and we couldnt get the filter out and we didnt even purchase extended warranty, but they came to take out the filter and add a new one in. So i dont think you should bash Sears for its customer service.
Posted by: Nilesh Tailor | November 06, 2007 at 09:25 AM
Nilesh --
I'm not bashing Sears -- just telling what my experience has been -- and it hasn't been good. I've contacted the whole group, and made no progress, though there may be a breakthrough coming. Stay tuned.
Posted by: FMF | November 06, 2007 at 10:30 AM
The machine now squeaks in the front and there seems to be way too much sway in the front stem as the machine is used. Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if the thing just snapped off one night and sent me flying across the room.
-mike-
Posted by: draining cleaning machine | April 08, 2009 at 01:55 AM
I bought a weider pro 4950 gym from sears and parts just kept going on it from the start.
Sears have refused to accept it back so i contacted the manufacturer:icon of canada and they are nearly as bad as sears.
sears customer service is disgusting and they dont want to take responsibility for the defective items they sell which could cause horrific injuries.
They also use false advertisments to make sales.
Countless discrepancies between catalogue items and actual items
Posted by: Matt | November 09, 2009 at 05:03 PM
Wow bummer i was GOING to buy an elliptical machine from Sears because they seemed sturdier than those at Kmart LMBO didnt know they were same Co. Oh well will find somewhere else
Posted by: dan weaver | March 13, 2012 at 07:38 PM
Wow bummer i was GOING to buy an elliptical machine from Sears because they seemed sturdier than those at Kmart LMBO didnt know they were same Co. Oh well will find somewhere else
Posted by: dan weaver | March 13, 2012 at 07:39 PM