Here's a question/comment left on my post titled How to Calculate Your Tithe (Or at Least How I Do It):
I earn minimum wage, have outstanding student loan debt, and a creditor preparing to sue me. The creditor will be able to garnish my wages or my bank account (which never has more than one paycheck worth of cash in it). I am having a hard enough time paying the rent and student loan payment on time. Will the creditor give me a break on any amount I tithe? If not, how can I make it all work?
Let me start by saying I don't mean to be harsh in my response, but I do want to be truthful/accurate. It's likely that this person has ignored what the Bible says about tithing and debt so far (at least what I can tell) and now want a way to make their finances work. But there really is no simple solution. They're going to have to start applying biblical principles to their money and slowly claw their way back to financial stability.
Now, let's answer the first question. No, the creditor will not give you a break on any amount you tithe? Why should he? His point of view is that you borrowed money from him and now you should pay it back. Sounds reasonable, huh? This is what the Bible means when it says the borrower is servant to the lender.
How you can make it all work is a tough question -- both to answer as well as to implement. Here are my thoughts:
1. For anyone in any sort of financial difficulty, there are only two ways to get out of it: make more money or spend less. I have no idea if you have the ability to make more money or not, but for some ideas, see How to Create Some Extra Cash, $10k Challenge: Sell Stuff You Own and $10k Challenge: Turn Your Hobby into an Extra Income.) I also don't know if you're spending your money correctly or not. If you want some ideas on how to save money, see 301 Saving Money Posts -- Hundreds of Ideas on How to Save Money.
2. Personally, I would do all I could in step #1 to start earning a decent surplus. Then I would call the creditor, tell him of your new-found plans, and that you intend to start paying him as you promised. I would also start tithing immediately.
3. In fact, I would tithe before I paid the debt. I know many people disagree with this position and you may have let this debt get to the point where you'll have no choice (if he sues you, you'll HAVE to pay him first), but that's what I'd certainly be working for -- paying God first and have Him help me pay off the rest.
4. I suggest you read Does God Want You To Be Rich? and pay special attention to my first bullet point. If you follow the financial advice given in the Bible, you won't be able to help yourself -- you'll become wealthy as a result. But if you ignore it, which you have at least in part (borrowing with no clear means to repay), you'll find yourself in deep financial trouble.
So, any other thoughts out there on what this person should do?
::: In fact, I would tithe before I paid the debt. I know many people disagree with this position and you may have let this debt get to the point where you\'ll have no choice (if he sues you, you\'ll HAVE to pay him first), but that\'s what I\'d certainly be working for -- paying God first and have Him help me pay off the rest.
This makes no sense at all. Give money to some religious organization that doesn\'t need it, while drowning in your own debt? \"paying God first and have Him help me pay off the rest.\" And how is \"god\" going to do this, exactly? Let me tell you how many people have gotten rid of debt this way: zero.
In fact, why don\'t you advice the CHURCH to get rid of THEIR debts by having \"god\" pay them off? Why not have the churches rely on \"god\" for all their financing needs, period? (I\'ll tell you why you don\'t: because all of this is BS.)
Posted by: Untrue | February 18, 2007 at 01:02 PM
Response to Untrue: whether you believe in God or not, God's stated purpose for the Church is to do work in the world; not to be carried in luxury by God. So if you care about the work the Church is supposed to do, you have to join the Church in doing it, not wondering why it doesn't get done.
Posted by: William Tanksley | February 19, 2007 at 12:55 AM
Untrue --
You're wrong. It worked for me early on in my days after college. And I've personally seen it work for many others, read about it working for hundreds, and heard of it working for many more than that (I would guess that financial coach Dave Ramsey would recommend this, and he's helped untold numbers get out of debt.)
This was the reason I answered this question this way -- it worked for me and thus I'm passing it along.
Posted by: FMF | February 19, 2007 at 07:56 AM
If the person wasn't tithing before or during the time the debt was incurred, the debt must be paid off before beginning to tithe. If this person had really found God in the meantime, s/he would've found a way to pay off the debts.
I think it's sinful to use someone else's money to buy things, and then have a false generosity - because that tithe is coming from someone else's money - not his/her own.
Posted by: Margo | February 19, 2007 at 12:00 PM
Margo --
If the person follows the advice above, there won't need to be a choice -- both can be done at the same time.
Posted by: FMF | February 19, 2007 at 12:25 PM
I used other people's money to buy a college education. Millions of Americans do it. Was that sinful? Then I took cash advances from a credit card to make student loan payments to avoid defaulting on the student loans.
Posted by: Terry | February 20, 2007 at 10:45 PM
the Truth here is, it takes knowing God(Jesus Christ) and having His Spirit living within you to pay tithes. when you know God and have a relationship with Him through our Lord Jesus Christ(the Only Way to God), you will realize how important He is before anyother thing in your life. so to observe His importance and Significance and Lordship in our Life, we must obey His Words and Commandments. before i met Jesus Christ, i was always running out of money, although I knew God had deposited some outstanding things in my life beforehand, but they wouldnt manifest. but when I met Jesus Christ, I grew in such an utmost Knowlege, Wisdom and Understanding. I grew with huge ideas(that are in about to change my life and the life of those God has placed around me), my finances became sufficient(although sometimes when i spend lavishly, i run out of money, but i'm never devastated, there is always a way out of my foolishness). God is good and Faithful, if you meet and know Him. Jesus is Lord forevermore. Amen.
One in Christ Jesus.
Sunny
Posted by: Sunny | January 16, 2009 at 12:52 PM
You are soooo right... when it does not make sence if I put the Lord first even tho. I am struggling with a business and too much debt, He has protected me and always made a way for me. I am blessed coming in and going out, something I cannot do for myself. All things I have belong to HIM and I am just serving Him with my first fruits as I feel He has led me to do even when it is difficult. God is for you and He will show you how to get out of debt as I am in process now ..and my business is growing. God is good. gml
Posted by: gml | September 23, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Failure to tithe under law brought wrath. Failure to give liberally under grace brings no rewards.
Posted by: Ade | January 03, 2013 at 12:23 AM