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February 15, 2008

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Why not send everyone to the people that create the FICO score, http://www.myfico.com/CreditEducation/, for their take on things?

I posted on this topic yesterday - things to do to improve your credit in 2008- and this was one of them suggested by MSN money - closing open accounts with bad terms, but also keeping enough open to show that you can manage your credit, and show that you can make payments on time.

Hmmm, not exactly sure what's best in this case. However, I lowered the max on both my CC's a while back and saw my score take a LARGE hit. It went from 790's to 750's even though I was paying both car payments on time and the mortgage. The only thing I did was lower the CC max from about 20k to 6k, I guess the credit utilization number is huge. Since then I raised them back, but haven't checked my # since.....

"Bad terms / good terms" is not quite so simple an issue -- in this respect, banks are just like hotels, furniture stores, and car dealers. That is, if you push for a favorable deal, you can get it. Sometimes the banks offer favorable deals outright, through the mail, and at all times, you might be able to place a cold call & receive a favorable deal on the spot. By favorable deal, I mean something like a 0%-4% for a specified short-term period, or a competitive fixed-rate loan, in either case involving reasonable transaction fees & reasonable minimum monthly payments.

So my take is that, if you feel that there is at least the potentiality for obtaining a good deal from your credit card issuer, then it makes sense to keep the account. But if your credit card issuer is hard-nosed or deceptive in its practices, then there is little point in keeping the account.

May I add an afterword as to what I mean by "deceptive."

A year or two ago, I received a circular from the very largest of the U.S. banks, boldly offering "zero percent thru February 2008." But upon examination of the fine print, there was a disclaimer: "We can change this rate at any time, for any reason, including for reasons having to do with our own market competitiveness."

In other words, I could accept this offer, pay hundreds of dollars in non-refundable transaction fees, and then have them rescind the rate a day later!

What was deceptive here was the use of the phrase "thru February 2008." If a rate can be rescinded for any reason, then the phrase "thru February 2008" is meaningless, as one could just as soon say "thru February 2099," or "thru February 2999."

I regret that I did not refer this to the appropriate regulatory offices.

When I first met my husband he had never owned a credit card (at age 24). Good for the lack of debt, but bad for the lack of credit history. We started small and got him a few (2 or 3) credit cards but most had annual fees. As the years went by, his credit rating got better and he was able to qualify for cards with better terms (no fee, lower interest rate). I thought I was being responsible and proactive when I canceled his older cards, but his credit score took a huge dip. I later learned how important the "age" of the account is when calculating a credit score. I wish I would have let those older cards sit around for a few more years. Paying the annual fee would probably have been worth it when we applied for our first mortgage. Moral of the story: if you're young or don't have much credit history, keep all your cards open (with empty balances) if you know you will be applying for a larger credit transaction (i.e. a mortgage). Once you know you don't need to qualify for something in the forseeable future, then cancel the cards with the annual fees. (Anything without a fee we now just let sit in a drawer and collect dust - but it remains open.)

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