Here are a couple articles from my paper a week or so ago about saving money on heating costs this winter. The first gives a list of all the home maintenance/projects we can each undertake to be sure our homes keep the heat in and don't let it escape outside (or, in other words, don't let the cold air get into the house.) Here's a summary of why this is important (though most of you know this already -- duh!):
Early projections from the U.S. government lend a sense of urgency: People heating with fuel oil may pay 45 percent more than last season, according to the U.S. government's July short-term energy outlook. For users of electricity, a 9 percent rise is anticipated.
One of their simple, no-brainer tips includes:
For the price of a gallon of gasoline, you can buy a can of spray sealant. Shot into holes and cracks, the expanding foam quickly stops unwanted airflow and pays for itself many times over.
I did this to our house a couple years ago. The foam is still rock solid everywhere but around our garage doors. I need to replace it there this year.
The second piece talks about how the price of wood pellets is increasing rapidly as people use wood stoves to save on energy costs. A summary of the situation:
Fifteen years ago, Kevin Geertman had to beg his customers to buy wood pellets. This summer, the first semi-truck load was gone in two days. By summer's end, the co-owner of Cosy Warm Hearth & Patio in Holland sold 127 tons at about $190 a ton and can hardly keep up with demand.
With heating costs expected to soar this winter, demand for pellets and pellet-burning stoves is going through the roof, and supplies are tightening. Home Depot, the nation's largest home improvement chain, reported recently pellet sales in its northern U.S. division soared 3,300 percent over last year. Prices are following demand. The price per ton is up $10 from last year, to $195, at the Sand Lake Feed & Supply store in Sand Lake, said owner Doug Guiles.
Later on in the article I found this. Interesting how it gives different numbers from what's quoted above -- though it's from the same paper on the same day:
Interest is intensifying as the heating season gets closer. The Department of Energy expects heating bills to be 27 percent higher this winter for people who heat with oil and 41 percent higher for those who heat with natural gas.
Ok, so the numbers may be off a bit. But we all get the picture -- costs for heating our homes is going way up this winter. Yikes!
But how much can you save using a wood stove versus other alternatives? Well, you need to buy the stove and then pay it off with savings over time. Does this work financially? Turns out it does in many cases. A few examples:
In Coopersville, Robert Stevenson heats his office at Basic Heat & BBC with a pellet stove, which he says saves 50-60 percent on heating. "It's only $400 for the whole season, as opposed to $400 a month for other fuel," Stevenson said. "I haven't bought any fuel oil in 4 1/2 years, and I haven't had to rely on my furnace for any heat."
Pellet stoves generally cost $1,700 to $3,000 and installing it yourself can save about $400.
"I had a customer who came in who was heating his home for 12 months at $305 per month," Geertman said. "This customer is going to put a pellet furnace in that will heat for $225 per month for six months -- that's a $75 to $80 savings."
A $75 per month savings for six months ends up saving $450 in total per year. If it costs $3,000 (high end) to put in a stove, you can pay it back in less than seven years. Not bad.
One of my friends at work did the calculations an he figured his wood stove paid out in two years versus buying propane. He saved a good amount by putting in the stove himself as well as buying a couple years' supply of pellets at a sale price two years ago (when prices were much lower.) Of course, he had to have a place to store them (which he does), and not everyone can do this.
We've seen a couple homes that have had wood stoves and it's one accessory that we view favorably in a potential new home.
Anyone out there have experience with a wood stove? Are the savings real? What tips can you provide to help the rest of us save with/run a wood stove?
Pellet stoves can work pretty well and can be worth the cost. But probably only if you are in a fairly cold climate with steep bills to begin with.
Both my uncle and a friend of mine use them and where they live its usually below freezing during winter. My uncle has a free standing unit that is connected to his fireplace chimney. My friend has a full forced air furnace that burns wood pellets.
Wood pellet availability and increasing prices are a con for the pellet stoves. But they are still cheaper than most other forms of heat.
Heating with a regular hard wood burning stove would probably work pretty well to save costs too but wouldn't be dependent on the unique pellet fuel.
Jim
Posted by: Jim | September 16, 2008 at 04:51 PM
The house we moved into a few years ago had a wood burning stove. We pay $100 to clean the chimney every year and $100 to rent a splitter for a day. I've been able to collect enough firewood every year to get through the winter. I only burn on the weekend and a couple weeknights. Our monthly gas bill is around $60-$75 a month, we live in a suburb of chicago. Unfortunately i don't know exactly what the savings a month is since we've used this every winter.
Posted by: jeremy | September 16, 2008 at 05:26 PM
Need some wood?
We have plenty wood for the taking any place south of Interstate 10 near Houston metroplex.
Heating here is not the norm challenge further up country.
How ever simple stuff can cut your heating costs.
Got single pane glass? - buy 1x2's cut to size your windows, streach heavy translucent plastic over both sides of 1x2 for interior storm windows. great way to save heat Costs.
seal your electrical outlets, reseal your doors, wear more clothes.
Posted by: robert | September 16, 2008 at 06:02 PM
I'm reviving the old family custom of chopping firewood for the winter. Energy prices in my area will rise 20-30% according to the local electric company (no nat gas here), so I'll invest some sweat equity to counter balance the prices. I own the trees so it's basically free minus the time invested.
Not sure how much it will save, but it can't hurt to heat the home at night and on the weekends for free.
Posted by: Matt @ Steadfast Finances | September 16, 2008 at 07:11 PM
We have used a wood burning stove for about 40 years with an oil furnace as backup.
This is something my husband is willing to do but without him I would probably not use it as much. He splits the wood and stacks it, and of course hauls it into the house each day.
We buy our wood now, although we cut it ourselves the first 15 years (when we had kids here to help haul it.) The price of a cord of wood has risen right along with the price of oil. So although we are saving probably half what it would cost without the wood that percentage has stayed the same.
In our area it takes some doing to find someone who will reliably deliver a cord when he says he is going to. Sometime the word cord means a pickup truck full, other times it means a real cord, you have to get to know what your woodcutter is going to deliver. That goes for the quality of the wood as well. Sometimes you get a lot of bark and scrap wood.
We always order about five cords in early summer, so it has time to dry if he isn't delivering wood that is already dry.
We have found that when our kids and grandkids come home it is best not to be burning the wood, we use the furnace then. Some of the grandkids have asthma and we do not want to aggravate it in any way. I read there are some air pollutants in the home from the stove although it doesn't seem to bother us.
Our current wood burning stove is 30 years old, I am sure more efficient ones and less polluting ones can be bought now.
Our daughter is in Houston, wish we could take advantage of all that downed wood!
Posted by: Diane from PA | September 16, 2008 at 07:20 PM
I should also mention as someone did above, it is VERY IMPORTANT that the chimney is cleaned at least once a year. My husband also takes care of that so there is no expense for us involved.
Posted by: Diane from PA | September 16, 2008 at 07:24 PM
Propane is much more expensive than natural gas. I live in an area with cheap electricity, and it's actually cheaper (per BTU) to use electric radiant heaters than it is to use propane to heat a home.
Posted by: segfault | September 16, 2008 at 07:34 PM
With all this wood talk, I went googling and found this chart in the "How Much Wood" section:
http://www.cdc.gov/nasd/docs/d001201-d001300/d001235/d001235.html
it might help you calculate your wood needs, if you were to switch.
I don't think I'd want a radiant heat stove in the middle of the house with kids running around, but I'd take a water heating furnace with gas backup any time.
Posted by: Richard | September 16, 2008 at 09:57 PM
You may also want to make sure you don't have severe pollution issues in your area.
My grandmother lives in a small town in Oregon. The town is in a river valley and occasionally has still-air inversion situations where pollution sits and gathers for days. At least a couple times every winter, wood burning is banned to keep pollution from getting to dangerous levels.
Posted by: Foobarista | September 17, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Two words: programmable thermostat. No easier way to lower the temperature when you don't need it (e.g. if the house is empty during the workday) and have your home waiting for you all warmed up when you return home. Easily installable.
If it costs $50 more to get a model that has more advanced programming features, go for it (and take the time to read the manual if you can't figure out the programming). It will pay for itself in no time.
Posted by: MelMoitzen | September 17, 2008 at 09:10 AM
It seems no one brought up the "tragedy of the commons". It would seem to me that wood burning stoves/pellet stoves are an excellent example. They drive the particulate air pollution up, thereby making the environment worse for everyone. The reason they are so much cheaper is because the environmental impact of burning wood is not directly factored into the cost of the fuel.
Posted by: BenG | September 17, 2008 at 10:00 AM
We are on Propane and made the switch to a Hybrid Heat Pump towards the end of last winter. We wanted AC (stay at home wife and 4 kids) and since we are on propane, the incremental cost of the heat pump will pay for itself in a few years. So I'm glad to see that electricity is only up 9% vs +40% for propane.
Posted by: Ken.H | September 17, 2008 at 11:13 AM
I'll second the programmable thermostat. It pays for itself in a matter of months, and helps both in the summer and winter.
Two more things that help, regardless of your heating method:
Run a humidifier. The house feels warmer and you'll be less likely to catch cold. A whole house humidifier is best, but one or two smaller humidifiers are better than nothing.
Put heat shrink plastic film on your windows. It doesn't look all that attractive, but that extra barrier helps keep the heat in and cold out. It can also cut down on drafts. While it may not help much on newer, more energy efficient windows, if you have older windows these are a must. I would estimate putting the film on my 1960s-era windows saves me a couple hundred bucks each winter. Not bad for an investment of about $5 per window.
Posted by: Dave Farquhar | September 17, 2008 at 09:14 PM
My family has heated with wood heat since my parents moved to Missouri in 1982. Every winter my Dad goes out with the boys and cuts down dead trees (marked in the summer) and they split wood. The wood stove we have is just tiny (in relation to our house: about 3 ft tall, 3ft wide and 4 ft deep. Our house is around 2800 square feet) and it heats almost every room SO well. Only one room doesn't get warm and that is because it has no direct access to the hot air. My father is really wise and he put the stove near one wall in the living room. The stove itself heats the living room, school room, kitchen and dining room. The flue is shot up through the bedrooms above, providing heat to all the upstairs rooms. This is very important. Do not get a stove for the looks and shoot the flue out behind it just to eliminate the pipe in the room. That flue is where all the heat is at. Putting the stove downstairs and using the flue to heat upstairs is one of the most energy efficient things you can do.
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