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October 20, 2009

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Nice book, however if you read Millionaire Next Door, I guess it's more of a part II. New facts into one book.

I enjoyed reading the book and adding it to my library

I think I have the explanation.

I always wanted to have the normal things that most people aspire to, such as:--

A very nice new home, comfortably furnished, in a nice area.
A nice looking and dependable car.
Enough savings to be able to survive an unplanned break in my employment.
To raise a normal all American family.
To be able to afford an annual family vacation.
Eventually to have a home away from home for recreational purposes, in our case a ski cabin at Lake Tahoe.

I achieved all of that, early in my career by the age of 33, but I had two mortgages to pay and certainly was far from being rich.
My wife and I achieved these goals by living frugally, and saving hard.
My wife worked when the children were old enough and we both contributed the maximum into our 401K plans.

I retired when I was 58, in 1992, with a decent size 401K and with the help of a golden handshake was able to pay of both mortgages. We were still living frugally, well within our means, and still far from being rich.

After I retired I had time to teach myself about the technical analysis of investing in the stock market. After the very complicated technical analysis of rocket motor and re-entry vehicle structures that I had been doing I found that the analysis tools used to quantify trends and behaviors of investments were extremely simple by comparison and I soon had constructed a really nice program that helped me a lot with managing my own investments - however I was still far from being rich.

Then came the wonderful Clinton years with the Goldilocks economy, not too hot, not too cold, but just right. That led into the DOT.COM Bubble which started in 1998, expanded with irrational exuberance until it finally popped in March 2000. My hi-tech mutual funds peaked on 3/9/00 and 4 market days later, on 3/15/00 I was safely in money market funds. I had lost $350,000 in those 4 days but by then I was rich. If I had stayed invested I imagine that when the market hit bottom in October 2002 I would certainly have no longer been rich.

The bottom line is that I had been living frugally my whole life from my first job delivering papers while in high school right up until I was 65, and then in about 5 short months the stockmarket made me rich. After all those years of scrimping and saving and living frugally to achieve and maintain a nice lifestyle it's impossible to change your habits quickly and to suddenly start living like people that became rich at a very early age.
So here I am, very happy and living pretty much the way I have lived for the last few decades, only now I am a very frugal multi-millionaire and one of these days our three kids, two of which are already millionaires, will thanks us!

The Millionaire Next Door is one of the all time greatest books. I am looking forward to your review and getting a copy for myself.

When you run the numbers, I don't see how anyone can walk away without understanding that is always easier to save money than it is to make money?

If you want Proof, click on my name.

We focus too much on trying to make a million and not enough on trying to keep a million!

All good stories here. It reminds me of a banker friend of mine who was privy to bank accounts. He said the nicer the car the lower the account. He also said the biggest accounts were owned by guys driving old pickups. I was skeptical but it sounds like there may be some truth to this story.

I have the Millionaire next door right on my coffee table! Great book full of insight.

I'll definitely check out his new book as well. Thnx for highlighting.

When I first read the book "The Millionaire Next Door", I started to believe that being frugal was a possible way to achieve wealth. Truly a great book, I hope this new one is as good.

A lot of this comes down to understanding the credit illusion. Credit = debt. If we walked around carrying "debt cards" in our wallets rather than "credit cards" i think we'd use them differently.

FMF,

The best part of your post is the implication that you got a free copy of the book by contacting the publisher. Now that is frugality at its best!

-Mike

Mike --

Yes, that's a nice side benefit of being a blogger. :-)

If you've got to flash it, you don't have it. The millionaires I've known have been frugal people with old fashion values who came from nothing and know they could return to nothing tomorrow so they looked for bargains like everyone else.

I just got finished reading his book "the millionaire mind" and am hoping to receive my copy of this new book as well. Sounds good!

The Millionaire Next door is a great read. It's amazing how many people spend years to graduate from college only to appear rich.

It's such common sense, yet so few people follow this sage advice.

I aspire to a smug asceticism, where I have a lot of money and make anonymous donations, while continuing to live a poverty-level lifestyle.

"A very nice new home, comfortably furnished, in a nice area.
A nice looking and dependable car.
Enough savings to be able to survive an unplanned break in my employment.
To raise a normal all American family.
To be able to afford an annual family vacation.
Eventually to have a home away from home for recreational purposes, in our case a ski cabin at Lake Tahoe."

I had of that by the age of 31, except for the second home.

I hope to now stack money and build wealth for the second half of my life as you did.

Thanks Old Limey for the inspiration

Posts in this vein might be more helpful to FMF readers if they focused on expensive "rich lifestyle" accoutremonts that aren't as obvious as McMansions. Because I'm sure everyone reading FMF just responds to these posts with "oh, I'm so awesome because I'd *never* spend money like that!"

Some suggestions:

1. Your own brokerage account: I wish I had a nickle for every middle-aged stoner IT guy I've met who is convinced they're going to make it rich by day-trading. When all they're doing is pissing away $ with fees.

2. Do you really need that iphone/blackberry and it's expensive service plan? Can't you possibly wait until you get home/to work to send that email? Maybe a regular phone at a fraction of the cost would work just as well?

3. Major league sports season tickets. Couldn't you just buy tickets when you'll actually have time to go, or sometimes watch the game on cable?

4. You don't need the brand new iMac or a netbook every year. Get yourself a middle-of-the-road Dell and keep it for 5 years. Or just use your work laptop for everything.

5. Don't take "destination" vacations. The kids don't *have* to go to Disneyworld. Just take a week off work and take the family camping and to your local waterpark or 6 flags or science/children's museum every day. Just because it's spring break doesn't mean you have to go to a resort. Maybe just drive to the nearest big city and go to a show. Similarly, spending your vacation time in the Caribbean at an all-expenses paid resort or taking a cruise is way overrated and incredibly overpriced--you'd probably have just as much fun renting a cheap little place on the beach in South Carolina or California and cooking for yourself.

6. ??

I not only want to read this book, I want Old Limey to write a book too!

"Similarly, spending your vacation time in the Caribbean at an all-expenses paid resort or taking a cruise is way overrated and incredibly overpriced--you'd probably have just as much fun renting a cheap little place on the beach in South Carolina or California and cooking for yourself."

Actually, a cruise can be a whole lot more economical than a vacation in California... Especially if you live near a port and don't need to fly. Keep in mind that you are getting transportation, lodging and excellent food. A package to the Caribbean can be reasonable too, though usually all-inclusive ones are more expensive. Just need to shop around, maybe get cheapest stateroom on a ship, maybe choose the season wisely: for example first week of January is just as nice as last week of December, but is a whole lot cheaper. Late November -early December still have summer prices but are fairly nice. October is very cheap, but a bit risky in the Caribbean. Also - start looking several months in advance and check prices every week. BTW -- and neither South Carolina nor California (with its freezing water) is anywhere close to the Caribbean: the water in the Caribbean is warm and crystal clear; you see a wave coming at you and it looks like it is from glass... And there are palm trees on the beach that provide shade. But if you haven't been there you wouldn't understand.

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