Consumer Reports lists care-care maintenance myths (along with the truth about them) as follows:
- Myth: Engine oil should be changed every 3,000 miles. Reality: Stick to the service intervals in your car's owner's manual.
- Myth: Inflate tires to the pressure shown on the tire's sidewall. Reality: The pounds-per-square-inch figure on the side of the tire is the maximum pressure that the tire can safely hold, not the automaker's recommended pressure, which provides the best balance of braking, handling, gas mileage, and ride comfort. That figure is usually found on a doorjamb sticker, in the glove box, or on the fuel-filler door.
- Myth: If the brake fluid is low, topping it off will fix the problem. Reality: If the fluid level drops to or below the Low mark on the reservoir, then either your brakes are worn out or fluid is leaking. Either way, get the brake system serviced immediately.
- Myth: If regular-grade fuel is good, premium must be better. Reality: Most vehicles run just fine on regular-grade (87 octane) fuel.
- Myth: Flush the coolant with every oil change. Reality: Most owner's manuals recommend changing the coolant every five years or 60,000 miles.
- Myth: After a jump-start, your car will soon recharge the battery. Reality: It could take hours of driving to restore a battery's full charge, especially in the winter.
- Myth: Let your engine warm up for several minutes before driving. Reality: Modern engines warm up more quickly when they're driven.
- Myth: A dealership must perform regular maintenance to keep your car's factory warranty valid. Reality: As long as the maintenance items specified in the vehicle owner's manual are performed on schedule, the work can be done at any auto-repair shop.
A few thoughts on this issue from me:
1. I've been onto the oil change issue for quite some time now and I think that people are becoming more and more educated on it. No longer is "every 3,000 miles" the rule. Read the manual and follow it. For my current car, I get the oil changed every 7,500 miles (as stated in the manual) and it's been fine (at 90k miles now).
2. I don't check the tire pressure in my car's tires often. I need to do that more.
3. I don't mess with brake fluid, coolant, and so on. That's what I rely on a mechanic for.
4. Always use regular gas unless the car requires premium. Can save you a bundle over the years.
5. We haven't had to jump-start a car in years (after owning a car my wife had to have jumped many times over its life -- it had no warning for lights left on.)
6. I think we covered the idle or not idle issue awhile back.
7. I take my car to a local garage for oil changes and basic maintenance. For big stuff I go to the dealership.
8. For those of you who want more tips, see 10 Ways to Save Money on Car Ownership.
Anyone have any thoughts on Nitrogen in the tires? Btw, yes I know that air is 70% nitrogen. Seems like a good way to give dealers free money?
Posted by: Bill | November 03, 2009 at 12:19 PM
And remember that you cannot get a jump-start from a Prius...lol...we did not even think about that until it was an issue a year ago. My Chevy Aveo needed a jump, I was on my way to work, my husband had just bought his used 2007 Prius, and it hit us that it would be absolutely useless. :)
We were actually thankful that we rent out our 3rd bedroom since our roommate was nice enough to help out. It was a pretty funny epiphany moment...
Posted by: Crystal | November 03, 2009 at 12:24 PM
If you'd rather not re-inflate tires often for seasonal changes (gain/lose approx 1 lb for every 10'F) then pay the $$ for nitrogen, you'd be better investing in a good pressure gauge, keeping the tires at/to w/in 2 lbs of the CAR Mfgr's recommendation for full load pressures, and try to rotate those tires (inspecting brakes, suspension, CV boots at this time) every other oil change...My car has never been to a dealer, I do the work at home, that includes: coolant, transmission, differential, brake and clutch fluid changes (check owners manual, often folks over change the oil and neglect the other fluids! - EVERYTHING is in the owners manual, read it 2X a year!) Realize spark plugs really aren't best left in 100K miles, often they literally melt to the heads, they are relatively cheap, replace 'em at 1/2 intervals and do the plug wires when the manual recommends plug changes for good mileage, dependability. Try to often (at least 2x a year) thoroughly wash and rinse the UNDERSIDE of your car, that pays in maintenance, repairs and preventive care! again, RE-ERAD THE OWNERS MANUAL!!!
Posted by: JeffinwesternWA | November 03, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Gotta disagree with the "reality" aspect of the premium vs. regular grade fuel. Again, that's something that you should follow per your owner's manual. Most cars don't need premium grade fuel, and you're just wasting money if you pump that into your car. However, if your manufacturer has designed the engine for higher octane fuels, you should put them in or you could experience downgraded performance, engine knocking, and stalling.
I can agree with the other statements, but I'm surprised CR would put out such a blanket statement about the fuel issue. I'm sure a lot of sports and luxury car makers wouldn't agree with it either.
Posted by: Dar | November 03, 2009 at 12:43 PM
Prius jump starting: Looks like you can...
http://www.vfaq.net/FAQ-electrical.html
Posted by: Moo | November 03, 2009 at 01:06 PM
Oil changes are a farce... 3000 miles died a long time ago. Conventional oil can be changed every 5000-7500 miles and fully synthetic 10,000-15,000. We had just bought a new MINI, and I was talking to the tech about this. They told me that it is a big scam, I mean $50 plus my time every couple months... ouch. My MINI has followed the computer's service requirements to the tee, and our oil changes (fully synthetic) have been anywhere between 10,000 and 21,000 miles (I kid you not). Of course with MINI (or BMW's) it's all free anyway:)
Posted by: John | November 03, 2009 at 01:19 PM
@Moo
It looks like it might be possible but you run the risk of either not having enough juice to actually start or "popping the master fuse between the 12V battery and the inverter in the Prius"...I don't know what a master fuse costs, but the battery costs thousands of dollars. Good to know in an emergency, but a little too risky for me on a normal day. Thanks though!!!
Posted by: Crystal | November 03, 2009 at 01:19 PM
Thanks Jeffinwest,
You sparked another qx for me re the nitrogen. Do tires filled with nitrogen use the same kind of tire gauge? As you can tell by my qx's there's no way I could self service my car, ;->
Bill
Posted by: Bill | November 03, 2009 at 02:35 PM
Thanks for offering practical tips on cars which everyone can always use in order to save a ton of money. It's good and it's very helpful to personally know a great mechanic when one needs him.
I agree that one can afford to overlook on certain car maintenance such as fluid change, but not on all like tire pressure.
Posted by: Samuel | November 03, 2009 at 03:02 PM
One more thing on oil changes: If you use synthetic oil, you can usually get away with waiting until 10,000 miles. Most times, this can be cheaper than changing the with regular oil.
Posted by: SaveABunch | November 03, 2009 at 03:18 PM
Speaking of premium gas, I just inherited a salvage Acura car recently. The cars manual says to use premium gas but since it is a salvaged and repaired vehicle, is this still recommended? Any suggestions?
Posted by: Eric | November 03, 2009 at 04:22 PM
Hi… maintenance is a must for everyone of us, because this
will extend the life of the car and help save costs in many
categories, such as spare parts, engine performance, etc.
Posted by: Ramon Elias | November 03, 2009 at 04:46 PM
If the cars computer can change the timing, often regular runs fine, my Mazda Miata's owners manual explains this CLEARLY, about a 6-10 hp loss but, $$ saved. Modern cars (OBDII computer systems) that ask for premium usually run fine on mid-grade 89~ octane or 87~ regular, w/ light loads, cruising, level roads, that ALSO mean a lower octane can be used, high reving, towing, hard acceleration, hills often make a car like higher octane. Brand DOES make a differnce as far as proper detergents in fuel too but, often the extra cost of top shelf fuels (Chevron, Shell, 76, Texaco, et all) can be offset w/ a servicing of the fuel system every 50K~ miles or so. Ther ARE differences w/ oil FILTERS, I'd advise using a synthetic medium filter (Pureolator Pure One, Mobil One, etc.,) w/ true synthetic oils, otherwise, change the cheap ones every 5000-7500 miles. Botiue oils Amzoil, Royal Purple are often overpriced for teh same wear/protection factors as Mobil One, Penzoil Platinum, etc.,, skip the so called blends, just advertising makes them sell. Cars that get low mileage use as well as a lot of driven miles benefit most from synthetics. Like I said above, don't neglect other fluids such: coolant, tranny, differential and filters: oil, air, cabin and hoses, clamps, belts plugs and wires, typically all need replaing at 90-120K miles...just going to Jiffy Lube and ignoring the rest is NOT maintenance!
Posted by: JeffinwesternWA | November 03, 2009 at 05:38 PM
I'm just some guy on the internet, not a mechanic, but I'm really skeptical that modern engines which were designed to run on premium gas actually need it.
They will suffer some performance loss burning lower octane gas, but I believe that all but the most aggressively tuned high performance engines can sufficiently adjust their timing to prevent knocking and pinging. As long as your not pushing you car too hard, I don't think regular gas would cause any problem.
Posted by: rq | November 03, 2009 at 05:51 PM
Tire Pressure
I always kept my tire pressure a couple PSI above the pressure written in the door jam, but they were always flat and the tread wear showed they were flat. I later found that the recommended pressure is 80% of the max PSI of the tire (some people even go up to 90%.) The pressure listed in the door jam should be 80% of the max pressure for the STOCK tires, but if you changed tires the recommended pressure may have changed.
@Eric: Yes, Acuras are designed to operate at higher compression so the higher octane is recommended. Some have tried both regular and premium gas meticulously recording their fuel efficiency, and found that they get better fuel efficiency with premium fuel, completely offsetting the higher cost. So regular gas may not be saving you anything (and how much harm it will do is often debated.)
Posted by: TheMightyQuinn | November 03, 2009 at 05:54 PM
The reason that some engines require premium fuel is that in order to gain performance they operate at a much higher compression ratio. At high compression ratios regular gas will cause pinging, knocking, and could in the long run cause damage to engine bearings. If you can't afford premium when the manufacturer states that it is required then you should buy a car with a lower performance engine.
Diesel engines operate at far higher compression ratios. The engines are built much stronger to withstand the higher forces but you can still hear a Diesel automobile coming from a hundred yards away.
Our newer Mercedes requires both premium gas and synthetic oil. Using non synthetic oil can eventually clog up piston rings and lead to expensive repairs, as well as voiding warranties. The synthetic oil requires changing every 10,000 miles under normal driving conditions. If the manufacturer supplies their own brand of oil filters I would also suggest that they be used. If all you need is a change of oil and filter you can save money by going to places that specialize in oil changing and avoid being ripped off by your dealer. They will credit you for bringing your own filter.
Posted by: Old Limey | November 03, 2009 at 09:08 PM