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March 26, 2010

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I work in an enclosed work environment...I wish perfume and cologne didn't exist. The bathroom and the hallway leading to it always reek.

I am not sure I 100% agree with tip 122. If someone is "significantly older" address them as Mr or Ms. Doesn't that action put yourself in a, for lack of a better work, subservient role right off the bat? If I were to walk into a meeting with a client and expect to be have my opinion respected I feel like I might be undermining myself by doing so. I have only had one client in my life where I called him Mr. He was the owner of a client, elderly (well past retirement age) and took my cues from my boss. Only the partner on the account called him by his first name. His middle aged sons, also owners of the company, were addressed with their first names.

All that being said, that is my American view of it. In my European experience, it is much more formal and Mr or Ms is often seen as respectful and much more expected.

This all makes perfect sense.

Except for the advice about women's bathroom etiquette. Why freak out about people brushing their teeth or reapplying makeup? Most people work long hours and don't have access to a private washroom--what are they supposed to do: lurk in the hallway until it's empty and then put an out or order sign on the door so they can have a private moment? I think you missed much worse behavior: those women who fill the toilets with TP, clogging them, just because they are too fastidious to sit on the seat!

Re bathroom etiquette: Why are women's rooms at many places of employment so badly designed? Not enough stalls, and usually only one small mirror and the lighting is usually awful. Also---so what if a person wants/needs to brush their teeth, you should ignore it and not freak out. It's not like you can go home and do it.

Also the "title" thing doesn't account for regional differences. I recently moved to the South it is very common for someone to be addressed with a title and their First name. Especially if you have a hard to pronounce last name like mine.

*If you had done this, the unwelcome advance almost certainly would never have been made*

Er, this is a bit close to blaming the asker for scummy client's behaviour for me. She shouldn't have to reinforce herself in a business situation and feel bad if she doesn't.

The Ms/Mr thing is interesting to me. I don't believe I've ever referred to a client by anything other than their first name, including when I was a 22 year old starting out. Think that's gone the way of the paid lunch hour. Neither am I ever referred to as Ms. Guinness416 either - except oddly by one particular architect we work with.

KH - yes, totally agree on the bathroom etiquette. If someone brushing their teeth (who the hell would object to that?!) is the worst behaviour in your women's washroom you're doing very well!

I usually brush my teeth in the b-room in the mornings at work. After downing some coffee I figure fresh bresh is appreciated especially in meetings. It could be considered proper etiquette in my book.

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