The book Debt-Free U: How I Paid for an Outstanding College Education Without Loans, Scholarships, or Mooching off My Parents is strongly in favor of having students work while in college.
But many others have objections to working while in college. Their main argument is that if students work, they won't have time to adequately study and thus their grades will suffer. The book disagrees with this assertion and says that the average college student wastes an enormous amount of time -- time that could be used to work. A few facts it uses to back up its claim:
- According to Nielsen, college students watch an average of 24.3 hours of television per week.
- A 1993 report shows that students who worked eleven to twenty hours per week reported a higher GPA than students who didn't work at all.
- Another study showed how many hours per week (on average) students spent on various activities. Results: 10.2 hours drinking alcohol, 8.4 hours studying, 5 hours exercising, 4.1 hours online social networking and video games, and 2.5 hours working for pay.
Given these, the book says:
So by eliminating video games and Facebook and cutting drinking time in half, I just found 9.2 hours of newly available free time that can be used for working for pay. Cut the amount of television watching in half and you have another 12.15 hours per week, and pretty soon you have a student working twenty-one hours each week.
Ha! I gotta laugh at this!!
Seriously, I agree that students should work while in college. I think that most have the time to do so and that there are several positives to working including:
- Students get an income to help pay for college (and thus they leave college with less debt)
- Students get work experience (even if it's not in their field, they will at least have some work experience, something many graduates lack.)
- Students appreciate their education more and perhaps take it more seriously (because they are footing the bill for part of it.)
The book names a couple other advantages to working while in school:
- The need and opportunity to work a part-time job to help pay for college can cut down on the amount of time that students waste, and help them to develop strong time management skills that will serve them well throughout their lives.
- Dave Ramsey says: "As an employer if you come into my office out of college and you want to be hired and you tell me you worked three part-time jobs to get yourself through college, that is as impressive as the fact that you have the college degree, because I know that you are not only smart, but you know how to work."
I worked every year I was in college (and every summer in between except one -- when my former employer didn't have a spot for me.) I started working 8 hours per week in the library as a freshman, then 10 to 15 hours per week as a staff assistant (in the alumni relations office) for the next three years. As a grad student I worked 10 to 15 hours a week running the movie theater in the student union (every Friday and Saturday night by the way -- talk about a social life killer -- but it paid for all my tuition plus a stipend, so it was well worth it.)
It's true that I had to sacrifice and learn to manage my time. It's also true that I had something to talk about when employers asked about work experience. My grades were good -- among the best in my class. And, of course, I graduated with very little debt. Wins all the way around!
Anyone else out there work during college? Please share your experiences!
Depends on the major and college. With some majors it's really difficult. For example, CS major in a good school has a lot of projects where you may really need to spend ours and ours in computer lab. It also depends on how many courses you take. But a couple of junior or senior level CS courses in a school with a good CS department (even public school e.g. University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign or University of California at Berkeley) would keep you occupied full time. Not every week, but if you have a job where you have to be there at specific times, it'll be a problem. A flexible hours job like a grader would be fine, but it doesn't pay as much.
Posted by: kitty | October 25, 2010 at 11:22 AM
I worked during college, but if I had to do it all over again I would not have worked and concentrating on my education.
Posted by: janetj | October 25, 2010 at 12:09 PM
I went to a school that had a co-op program. I went to school 3 months and then work for 3 months at a sponsor company. I did that year round for 5 years to obtain my bachelors. To me, that is the ideal program because not only did I earn money for my education, I also got as much or more applicable education while on the job.
I did also have a minor job in the bookstore during my school sections. I don't regret the time spent working at all. You are more likely to appreciate your education if you have that kind of investment in it.
Posted by: Don Current | October 25, 2010 at 12:10 PM
It's amazing how much time you have when you cut out booze, social media and television! Ha, ha, I had to laugh at that part too!!
I agree, working during college is a good thing. Not only do you get some extra cash, but much needed work experience as well.
Posted by: Jason @ Redeeming Riches | October 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM
I worked during college as a nanny. This meant early mornings, late nights, and weekends - sometimes even sleeping over! I don't regret it at all. I made an effort to still be social on Friday and Saturday nights when I could. I also think that knowing how little free time I had made me plan better. I graduated with a great GPA and much less debt that I would have had I not worked.
Posted by: Danielle | October 25, 2010 at 12:56 PM
I worked from my first semester onward. First as a high school volleyball referee, then as a research assistant, then as a SAT prep course teacher. Nothing heavy, say 3-6 hours my first semester then up to 10-15 hours a week until halfway through my last semester. (I needed all the time then--planning a wedding and writing a thesis.) I worked 20-30 hours a week in the summer and went to summer school.
My parents were awesome and paid for my tuition, car, and room/board. But books, fun, going out money were all on me. And I paid for it with $0 credit card debt.
I think I made better grades the more I worked...
Posted by: ML27 | October 25, 2010 at 01:32 PM
Just a note on the benefit of work for the sake of work experience. This is not really a reason to get a job in that most students have to take pretty much useless (career wise) jobs to match their schedule. I do not really see how lawn care, working in the library, etc. can be considered good work experience. It is just work.
Posted by: Todd | October 25, 2010 at 01:36 PM
I worked throughout my college education. Not only did I have money to pay for school which enabled me to graduate with no debt, I also learned which vocations I never wanted to work in again. $#!+ jobs are great about that. I had little social life, but I don't think that I suffered too greatly. I also graduated with honors. These darn kids are too spoiled! Gee Whiz, I just skipped turning into my father and went directly to turning into my gradfather.
Posted by: David C | October 25, 2010 at 01:50 PM
Most of college I worked a part time job and had tons of time to waste. 15 hours of class plus 15 hours working is still only 30 hours out of the week. That was in engineering at a good school.
One quarter I worked two part time jobs while taking a full load of classes. I was busy every weekday from 8am to 9pm going from class to work to class to work. I was able to study on the weekends. I got a 4.0 that quarter which was one of my best quarters. That was in computer science too BTW. Having to work that much kept me disciplined with my time and really only ate into my wasted leisure time.
If you're in a challenging major and you really have to spend a lot of time studying then you can still work if you find the right job. There are a lot of campus jobs that allow you to study while you work.
Posted by: jim | October 25, 2010 at 01:54 PM
"even public school"
The way you say that it makes it sound as if you think its supposed to surprise people that public colleges are actually as hard as private ones.
Posted by: jim | October 25, 2010 at 01:58 PM
I know this is unrelated to the question, but 8.4 hours studying OMG. No wonder the average citizen in America doesn't have a clue what is going on.
Posted by: Mary Kate | October 25, 2010 at 02:12 PM
I worked all through college (20 hrs/wk), and I got my BS with honors in Chemistry. It was a challenging degree with all the lab classes that take extra time. My last 2 years I worked in an off-campus lab--I made a lot of money & it helped me get a job right out of school because I already had experience.
If you don't have time to work or you can't work and get good grades at the same time, you're probably in the wrong major. The "social life" stuff is really overrated, IMO--you aren't missing much if you don't have time to get drunk at the frat house.
Posted by: MC | October 25, 2010 at 02:18 PM
This link:
http://divisionoflabour.com/archives/003997.php
suggests you can do two of three things, (1) study, (2) drink (or more generally party or just generally goof off) or (3) work at a job/play a sport. As a college professor, I can echo that advice. The problem I see is that when some students work, it is the studying that goes instead of the partying. Also I would really say it is pick 2 of 4: (1) study, (2) party, (3) work and (4) play a sport. Playing a sport in college is not conducive with working and studying.
Posted by: Michael | October 25, 2010 at 02:49 PM
While I attended college the first go-round, I had to drop out, and it was in no small part due to my job. I was working in a fast food job, 40 hours per week. At the time (and I believe this still holds true) most "part time" jobs pressure you to work as many hours as possible. Usually right up to under the legal part time allowance of hours as mandated by that state.
Most of the examples here in the comments are the cushy work-study type jobs. Even when I had one of those during college, I was not permitted to study any of those hours, I was expected to work. However, this job didn't have a market wage and did not have flexibility.
When your choices are working for money for essentials (as I was) and college, I could not balance the two. I was struggling to complete as many classes as possible with a degree that required five years of coursework for a BS degree. You speak of leaving off partying... I remember running a red light on the way to clinicals due to lack of sleep.
There is a job, and there is work. An assertive kid will define his limits and be just fine. Shy or desperate young adults are often pushed out of college by employers who pressure students to meet the employers needs first.
Posted by: JThompson | October 25, 2010 at 06:49 PM
I worked 15 hours a week in a warehouse on campus, 14 hours a week delivering pizza as much as I could doing yard work on the side (the money was the best I might add) while taking 15 credits a semester in mechanical engineering. Graduated with a 3.5 GPA.
If all students were required to operate the dumb end of a shovel for a year before college, they wouldn't think school "work" was so hard.
Posted by: Joe B | October 26, 2010 at 09:35 AM
@Jim: ""even public school"
The way you say that it makes it sound as if you think its supposed to surprise people that public colleges are actually as hard as private ones."
You have a point. I didn't mean it to sound like this. There are more demanding and less demanding schools - both public and private.
BTW - also, I meant undergrad. There is more flexibility in grad schools as teaching/research assistantships have flexible hours.
Posted by: kitty | October 26, 2010 at 11:13 AM
I worked for a year before I attended college (only got 2 years in) and worked while in school - often a job that was 48 hrs. a week. I got through school with no debt. Most of the jobs were as a waitress.
Jim - your figures are off for school & work. 15 hours of school and 15 hours working is only 30 hours per week. At the school I attended they advised against working if you could help it because you learned best if you spent at least 2 hours studying for each hour of class time. That made school a 45 hour a week job. However, I was a quick learner and I needed the work.
One reason I came out debt free is because there were no such things as student loans when I attended (1956-58). I had to work if I wanted to go - and I did. I dropped out because I could get no work the summer of '58.
As to the type of work you do, if the employer is smart he will consider any work you did. It is not necessarily the type of work you do, but the fact that you worked to earn your way and learned good habits that work in almost any job.
Posted by: Georgia | October 26, 2010 at 12:45 PM